Thomas Hoskyns Leonard Blog: A CONVERSATION WITH ALEC GRANT, RETIRED READER OF NARRATIVE MENTAL HEALTH

Friday, 12 January 2018

A CONVERSATION WITH ALEC GRANT, RETIRED READER OF NARRATIVE MENTAL HEALTH

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ALEC GRANT left the NHS in 1997, He is a retired Reader in Narrative Mental Health from the University of Brighton

Thomas Leonard the essenttial issue is as to whether Lucy still advocates the prescription of toxic psych meds during clinical treatment, as she clarified to me several months ago. Many supposed mental health conditions can be explained by previous trauma, but during diagnosis it is essential to consider condition or states of being on the spectrum, since they may not be completely explainable by previous trauma. Without this safeguard, I find Lucy's approach, as previously described to myself and James Carter in Edinburgh to be too simplistic

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Alec Grant Not simplistic at all m, Thomas. And not just Lucy's approach. Suggest you read the whole document in long and short form.

Thomas Leonard I'm basing this on the information I previously received Alec. If the possibility of a condition on the spectrum is not considered then any trauma-based approach will be simplistic, Lucy advised me in Edinburgh that she has no knowledge of conditions on the spectrum. If she has improved her approach since, and stopped proscribing toxic psych meds, then all good to her,

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Alec Grant I don't think she's able to prescribe drugs in her professional role, Thomas. I also know that she's very aware of the dangers of drug use, in line with Joanna Moncrieff, David Healy and Peter Breggin.

Thomas Leonard When I last corresponded with Lucy she indicated, albeit with some persuasion, that she'd sometimes felt compelled to prescribe psych meds in a clinical setting!

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Thomas Leonard As does David Healy ad nauseaum

Thomas Leonard along with his ECT.

Alec Grant As far as I'm aware, clinical psychologists have no prescribing powers?? She may have advocated this action though.

Thomas Leonard Maybe you should ask Lucy! And Mr, Healey.

Alec Grant My experience of Lucy and David are different from yours, Thomas. I'm not disagreeing with you but, respectfully, I'm surprised at what you say.

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Alec Grant Thanks for this Thomas. It's personally helpful. I wasn't aware of David Healy 's stance on ECT. I'm saddened by That, given what we know about this barbaric practice.

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Thomas Leonard Correction: According to the CATIE study around 70% of patients taking toxic psych meds stop their treatment during first fifteen months for some reason or other which includes debilitating side effects.

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Thomas Leonard Thank you, Alec. Beware all those who campaign since their motives may be quite different. I sometimes even wonder whether some campaigners are simply trying to help the Tories reduce the amount they spend on the mental health budget!

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Alec Grant I get surprised almost on a daily basis. Ginger Breggin, Peter Breggin 's wife, displays by her tweets that she is a David Trump supporter!

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Thomas Leonard quite apart from the Scientology rumours!!

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Alec Grant Thanks Thomas. Learned some things this morning!

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Alec Grant Ah now, the scientology stuff is nonsense Thomas. Used by the vile ortho camp to discredit high profile people in the crit MH communities.

Thomas Leonard Let's keep talking, Alec.Here are a large number of other home truths, One of my mental deficiencies is that I'm entirely honest. And I'm sure that the Breggins are not Scientologists!http://www.thomashoskynsleonard.co.uk/psychiatric_home.htm

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Alec Grant Thanks for this Thomas! I will read it with great interest later. Good to be connected with you!

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